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Err.. yeah, I see the hate that X-Plane users have against FS is reciprocal ..

But don't want to start a fight between those two wonderful sims, each one got their advantages and drawbacks.
Just about the flight dynamics : I know that you don't just have to put real values into plane maker to have the 100 % realistic flight model, the life isn't that simple.. you have to " cheat " with values, nothing is done in 2 days in X-Plane...

There are few very high quality adds ons like the Robinson R-22 Beta II by the very talented Brazilian developer Alfredo Fernandes : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IGVJ9b4 ... r_embedded

For example, this helicopter is so realistic that some real world flight schools want this guy to work with them on their civilian/military simulator. This helicopter doesn't use defaults X-Plane system, but customs ones with plugins, a unique 3D sound engine with HQ sounds, the flight dynamics of this R22 is unparalleled. I don't know if some of you fly helicopters on Flight Simulator, but really, it's a big joke, even great team like Dodosim can't override FS limitations.. There are a bunch of graphically wonderful heli for FS thanks to Nemeth brothers, Aerosoft, Cera and others.. but none of them got at least the behaviour of a helicopter..

I decided to come back to FS to give a try to your fantastic Accusim B-17, as it's my all time favourite fixed wing ACF, I was really impressed by the immersion, sound, systems etc, but once again, the flight model is quite poor, and it's not the developer's fault.. For example, the elevator surfaces need to be pushed or pulled hard to notice a difference in ACF's attitude..

I agree that engine simulation on X-Plane is basic but sorry, you have to do what you have to, like the real life. For example, starting an average generation ACF like the 172, turn battery on, mixture rich, throttle cracked, hold the starter until the engine fires up. X-Plane is way more realistic when it's about turbines, both airplane and helicopter, you have to push and hold the starter then open fuel and maintain the starter until a certain N1 or the ToT will go very high. In FS, you just have to assign a key to enrich mixture and with just that key, it's possible to start helicopter, without any starter or ignition or anything..

Then, X-Plane treat every parts like a physical one, with their own properties, weight, airfoil, inertia. So, it's very possible for example to go further than allowed RPM in a helicopter, when doing an autorotation with full low collective, that isn't possible in FSX.

The defaults ACF shouldn't enter into consideration, like FS one I believe, but take some high quality third party ACF like those one, just to say some :

- Antonov AN-2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ73qmufXJE
- Antonov AN- 24 RV : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e29yWkhB ... re=related
- CRJ-200 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV37W-gFkPQ
- BK 117 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMujs7Zx9PQ
- Bell 206 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4YaYGCLN7U
- Boeing 787 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26morJnqLPI

And so many more.. they are all taking profits of X-Plane unparalleled flight dynamics accuracy. That's true, you have to tweak the values to get the right thing, have the report of real pilots etc.. but the final thing is just exceptional.

I can't believe some FS developer when they mention on their payware product's page " tested and approved by real pilots ", especially for helicopters, the thing I know the most about. Or those pilots are imaginary, or they never tested a more advanced simulator..

CAPFlyer wrote:
so there's no way to get realistic engine starts

Man, say that to Lukasz ( http://forums.x-pilot.com/index.php/top ... s-renders/ ) who spent months and months to have a perfect DC-3 engine simulation, manage it as well as A2A does for their product, if not more, taking every factors into account, fuel pressure, boost pump, temperature etc.. so no, X-Plane current planes aren't " ON/OFF " ( or I would say " CTRL+E " planes..

I must agree that only Austin loves that ugly GUI.. but there are so many features to customise in X-Plane that a beautiful and shiny GUI a la FSX wouldn't be adequate..
I hope to see more people come into X-Plane world this year, to hear their thoughts..

Finally, it has been told many times, X-Plane 10 have a PLAUSIBLE world, it hasn't enough money to have the expensive data that Microsoft have for the local building etc.. the earth is huge, every city cannot be reproduced accurately with a default version... They provided the tool to make custom scenery, and it's that X-Plane community will do. Plausible mean at least physically realistic, not a building in the middle of a campaing for example. And the ground us only green grass, no more satellite photo realistic scenery with things painted on the ground, all building are 3D, a first in the whole flight simulation world..

Best regards,
Valentin.

Après Carte Aero et en attendant le futur outil du SIA, voilà un outil de plus dans la boite des pilotes réels et virtuels.

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